Episode 32: Danielle Allen, from South Central Los Angeles to the Declaration of Independence

You can subscribe to our podcast on iTunesGoogle PlayStitcher, or RSS. The podcast theme music is by Zébre. If you have any questions for the OK PolicyCast, topics you’d like us to cover, or people you want us to interview, you can reach us at policycast@okpolicy.org.

We’ve got something really special for you today. We’re sharing the recording of an event that Oklahoma Policy Institute co-hosted with Danielle Allen, a Harvard University professor and the author of the new book, “Cuz”. In the book, Allen tells the story of her attempt to rescue her cousin, who was arrested at 15 for an attempted carjacking, was tried as an adult and sentenced to thirteen years. He served eleven years in prison, and three years after coming out of prison, he was dead.

In this conversation between Danielle Allen and Tulsa civil rights attorney Damario Solomon-Simmons, they dig deep into how the inequalities of America — racial inequality, social inequality, economic inequality — play out not just in statistics and political debates, but in the personal dynamics of real individuals and families — as Danielle Allen puts it, in the “rending of kith and kin.” It was a powerful, impactful conversation, ranging all the way from South Central Los Angeles to the Declaration of Independence. It’s worth your time to give a listen.

You can download the podcast here, subscribe in the links above, or play it in your browser:


Gene Perry worked for OK Policy from 2011 to 2019. He is a native Oklahoman and a citizen of the Cherokee Nation. He graduated from the University of Oklahoma with a B.A. in history and an M.A. in journalism.

One thought on “Episode 32: Danielle Allen, from South Central Los Angeles to the Declaration of Independence

  1. I commend all involved in getting the policies regarding Oklahoma’s disproportioned justice system and those of us that seek “Change”. These type of talks need to continue until change for the betterment is evident.

Leave a Reply

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.