A tale of two states (Neglected Oklahoma)

Camille Landry is a writer, activist, and social justice advocate who lives in Oklahoma City.  This post is part of our “Neglected Oklahoma” series, which tells the stories of Oklahomans in situations where the basic necessities of life are hard to come by.  These are real people and their stories are true (names have been changed to protect privacy).

Photo by Jessica Lucia.
Photo by Jessica Lucia.

It was the best of times. Two days before Christmas last year, Juan Carlos Jackson’s foster mom helped him pack his things, strapped him into his car seat and drove him to the offices of the Missouri Department of Social Services where his birth mom waited to take him home.

“It was one of the best days of my life,” foster mom and mentor Jackie Lorenzo said. “The Intensive Family Preservation Service (IFPS) in Missouri manages to help the majority of foster children to be successfully reunited with their families.” Jackie had no small part in this success story. In addition to fostering Juan, Jackie acted as a mentor to Jalinda, helping her through the process of treating her drug addiction, finding a job, passing her GED exam and generally being a supportive presence in the young mother’s life.

It was the worst of times. Kim Arnold could barely get her story out between sobs. She had just signed the documents that terminated her parental rights regarding her two youngest children.

It had been more than three years since OKDHS and the police had come to her door and took Denisha, then 8 months and Nathan, 2 years old, into the foster care system. Her teenaged daughter was sent to Ohio to live with her dad. DHS claims that the children were neglected due to Kim’s addiction to prescription drugs. Of note, Oklahoma ranks #1 nationally for the nonmedical use of pain relievers for all age categories. Oklahoma saw a 67.5 percent increase in the misuse of prescription medication between 2005 and 2010. 

It was the age of wisdom.  With her mentor’s help, Jalinda figured out ways to handle the stresses of being a single mom without resorting to drugs. “I’m like an auntie or a godmother to her,” Jackie explained. “We talk on the phone every couple of days. She asks my advice. Sometimes we just touch base to let her know somebody’s in her corner.” Jackie helped Jalinda learn to budget her money, plan and prepare meals and handle her son’s discipline problems. “Everybody didn’t have a mama to teach them these things,” Jackie explained, “and not having these skills can cause huge problems.”

It was the age of foolishness. Kim continued to test positive for prescription drugs. “I started using them after I hurt my knee and hip in a car wreck. I got hooked. Without the drugs I just hurt all the time and can hardly go to work and take care of my kids. If I use the drugs then I’m an addict and the state takes away my kids.” Kim had been sober for 3 months when she went to a birthday party for a friend’s daughter who is the same age as her Deni. “Afterwards I felt so low, I got high just so I could stop crying.” Did it help? “No. I just cried more.” Two days later DHS called her in for a random drug test. She failed it.

It was the season of light. Jackie says that Jalinda learned new ways of thinking and living. As a result, Jackie feels that Jalinda and her son will have better lives.

“We had a whole team of people to help Jalinda get her family back together,” Jackie said. “The Social Services staff, the folks at Lutheran Family Services and more. Without the support of those people and agencies, I don’t think we would’ve been as successful.”

It was the season of darkness. Kim cycles between tears and rage. “I feel like I got hit by a truck. I can’t believe the law lets the state do this to people.” Kim researched the child welfare system. What she learned was a real eye-opener: Although prescription (and other) drug abuse is very common in the US across all socioeconomic groups, it is mostly the children of poor families who end up in foster care.

“I feel like I’m on my own,” Kim said. “I tried to get into a drug treatment program that would allow me to have my kids with me. There were no openings.” Kim ended up attending NA meetings but it wasn’t enough. She started using again. “I tried. I really tried.” No criminal charges were filed but DHS petitioned the court to terminate her parental rights after Kim failed to overcome her drug habit.

It was the spring of hope. According to Jackie, “Jalinda is clean and sober, got her GED and a job, took parenting classes. She is ready to be a great mom to Juan Carlos. I know they can make it.”

It was the winter of despair. Meanwhile Nate and Deni were switched from one foster home to another after they displayed troublesome behaviors. Nathan started soiling his pants. Denisha wouldn’t stop crying. Finally Denisha’s grandmother told her father that she’d help with the baby if he took custody of her. Now Deni lives with her father and his fiancé. “Nate’s dad is in New York and doesn’t want custody so Nate is still in foster care.” A formerly alert and happy little boy, Nathan is now taking medication for ADHD and behavioral problems and struggling to keep up in his kindergarten class.

We had everything before us. Despite shortfalls in revenue due to tax cuts and a depressed economy, Missouri has maintained its foster mentor program. Currently about 60 percent of Missouri foster children are eventually reunited with their families of origin.

We had nothing before us. “My babies are gone. I gave birth to three of them and now I have none.” Kim hung up the phone. OKDHS had 3,577 reunifications in FY 2013, a steep drop from the 6,146 foster kids reunited with their families just five years earlier in FY 2008, as show in the chart below.

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Oklahoma Dept. of Human Services, Total Foster Care Reunifications at End of Year, SFY 2003 – 2012

We were all going direct to heaven. Jackie is excited about welcoming a new family into her fold. She recently became foster mother to two boys, age 6 and 9, and mentor to their dad who wants to gain permanent custody of them.

We were all going direct the other way. “I don’t really have much to live for,” Kim said. “Why bother? My daughter is grown and gone and hardly speaks to me, Deni and Nate are being raised by other people. Pretty soon they won’t even remember me.”

Oklahoma continues to experience significant shortages of resources to cope with the growing child welfare crisis. Mental health and substance abuse treatment options, especially for poor and/or uninsured people, are minimal. OKDHS staff face huge case loads and limited resources to assist families in building stable environments to raise their children. Oklahoma families do not have access to the foster care mentoring programs that have proven effective in other states and foster parents are desperately needed.

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14 thoughts on “A tale of two states (Neglected Oklahoma)

  1. Oklahoma Department of Human Services is guilty of fraud and abuse on the highest level… they literally take healthy well cared for children away from loving (usually poor) parents for practically nothing and outright ignore calls or removal when children are being seriously abused.

    If you didn’t start out a victim before you get in the system; your definitely going to be one when, if, you come out.

    When we finally got my daughter out of the system by the grace of God and a really good attorney it took me a couple of months before I realized that even if we did manage to navigate through the every changing hoops in a kangaroo court, they weren’t going to give her back…

    They get more money for abducting/adopting children. No children. No funding. And everyone’s in on it… from the social worker, the cop, the judge, the attorney, the court reporter, the child support enforcer, all the way to the white house is funded in part by the commodity of children.

    I’ve seen too many women around my age, some younger than my 34 years, what having your kids stolen does to them… bright young mothers with sparkling eyes and a smile on their lips, turned into old looking hags; their skin hangs off their body like a husk, a shell to the person that doesn’t want it anymore. They curl up with their addiction, its usually the only thing they have left. Their children thrown into the gaping insatiable maw of the behemoth greed machine of the state. It needs more tears, more blood, more sweat, more fears. Babies go in; revenue comes out. CA-CHING!

    It’s cruel and unusual… especially to the children; CPS pretends to care so much about their welfare while they are children, but the second the turn eighteen they just pop them out on the street, with no family, no job, no money, the barest of an education, and a childhood filled with more scars, pain, and the rejection… Jesus weeps.

    1. apetty is correct I think.
      “Oklahoma Department of Human Services is guilty of fraud and abuse on the highest level… they literally take healthy well cared for children away from loving (usually poor) parents for practically nothing and outright ignore calls or removal when children are being seriously abused.” Her statement is proven accurate by the news headlines. An appalling fact of her statement is the abused children have medical histories and scares to prove interdiction is warranted. The most appalling fact of her statement is the injustice of taking “…healthy well cared for children away from loving (usually poor) parents for practically nothing…”.

      The federal tax money supported, state perpetrated, abuse of healthy well cared for children must be addressed. The mantra at every hearing, after every submission of opinion, is “In the best interest of the child (children).”. The subjective term used to justify state intrusion into the family is “neglect”. I hope everyone reading this will notice and discuss the fact that all the state’s actions are based on opinion.
      Oklahoma statutes flexibly define some forms of neglect. For those who are interested the link is: http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/Index.asp?ftdb=STOKSTA1&level=1
      Throughly covered, so as to be completely clear, as mud, is the issue of substance abuse. In brief, illegal drugs are bad, prescribed drugs are good, deemed abuse of prescribed drugs is bad, food addiction shall never be considered. Most dangerous to the health and safe continuity of life, for Oklahoma children, is the continuously changing, administratively created, pop-science based, selectively enforced, set of parenting “best practices”. Chuckle all you like, that set of, rules, or suggestions, as may please CPS, is what the catch-all, neglect, is based. Following those opinions every one over 30 years old would be separated from their parents.
      I wish apetty’s assertion that the social worker, the judge, and the district attorney are complicit, in the trafficking of children, was not true. Every week in CPS courts an allegation of “failure to thrive” will be made. The wealthy and the lucky will have a geneticist reporting “small mom, small dad, baby is going to be small”. The poor, naive, small framed Mexican family will lose their infant through a never ending “starving the baby” accusation. The two routes are “We did not starve our baby!” which becomes, abuse denial, terminate parental rights, or after extortion “We did not feed our baby enough” which becomes, insane parents, terminate parental rights.
      The completely missing outrage is our federal and state tax money is used to abuse and traffic children. One murdered baby, in the news, and every one thinks CPS needs more money. The children, thousands per year, who’s family, is shattered by CPS, will never make the news. Hidden with the veil of “privacy” for CPS’s part, every member of a CPS abused family will appear as a lunatic, with wild unsubstantiated accusations, unsubstantiated accusations, of course, until the next class action lawsuit. Murder, negligent homicide, torture, buggery, pardoning simple child trafficking, maybe Children’s Rights, (or who ever the next law firm, that cashes in on the next class action civil rights suit is ) should simply go for damages. Skip the high road of reform, just a couple million a piece for each victim including the victimized parents, without any money to fund government, Oklahoma’s CPS problem would be solved.
      The solution only requires paradigms based on the acceptance of reality.
      1. CPS budget cannot and should not be unlimited.
      2. Children will be harmed in CPS custody.
      3. Oklahoma has a fine set of laws regarding a variety of assaults
      between unrelated people, those laws should be applied.
      4. Compared to federal foster child assistance payments a significant
      amount of federal money can be collected by the state just by
      filling out, and assisting in the filing of, federal assistance
      paper work.
      5. The number of suitable foster parent(s) is limited no matter how
      much money is offered.
      6. CPS involvement in a family is traumatic.
      7. The number of 18 year old foster children who self report as having
      no family, as a five year floating average, and as a percentage of
      18 year old foster children total, can be tracked.
      8. The number of 18 year old people who self report as having
      no family, as a five year floating average, and as a percentage of
      18 year old people total, can be tracked.
      9. CPS should produce more 18 year olds who claim they have family
      support, than the population at large, if that is not the case then CPS
      has proven it’s self, a detriment to society.
      10. If at such a time as there are no more foster care placements
      available and more “pick-ups” / kidnappings are deemed
      necessary then the criteria for what constitutes “neglect” shall
      be reevaluated returning less neglected children to their
      families, with apology, as obviously the criteria was not
      consistent with the reality of life in Oklahoma.
      11. Adhering to the stated goal of determining what is in the best interest
      of the child all opinion of harm, potential harm, neglect, and potential
      neglect, shall be stated as a potential of occurrence with the family
      verses potential of occurrence as a foster child.

      http://iconia.ou.edu/cwvideos/The%20State%20of%20Oklahoma%20DHS_PRACTICE%20MODEL%20GUIDE%20_October%2031_08%204%20pm.pdf
      This beautiful document contains at least two all encompassing flaws. First,
      the opinion of neglect is based on some meaningless contrast to a fairytale
      childhood. Second, this Practice Model completely fails to acknowledge the comparative harm of CPS. Until those two flaws are addressed, the neurotic quest to solve these problems will grow:
      Oklahoma falling short in efforts to fix foster care system (OK Policy Blog)
      National Family Preservation Network (NFPN)
      OKDHS Recruiting Foster Parents (News9)
      Oklahoma’s biggest drug problem isn’t what you think (OK Policy blog)

    2. I can read a room and this is several years late and on the other side of this situation but I have my nephew right now and I am terrified that his mother will get him back. Her and my brother have a history of drug abuse and when they got pregnant, I bought a house in a great little neighborhood and moved them in so that I could monitor the situation. She failed at least one drug test while she was pregnant for opiates and as a consequence, my nephew was born with a social worker already assigned. Well, after meeting me and seeing the house that he would be raised in, they closed the case immediately.

      I pay the bills (including netflix and hulu and disney and hbo, etc), I provided the bedroom suite, I buy the groceries, I buy the diapers, I buy the wipies, I buy the formula, I buy and take care of everything for them and all that’s required in return is $450/month in rent. Things went well for the first few months, other than…

      She is a terrible mother, she co sleeps with baby despite being bought a wonderful pack-and-play and a crib, and on many occasions I found her asleep on the couch with the baby hanging precariously over the edge (and above the tile) in one arm, having to rush in to take him so he didn’t fall. She doesn’t do laundry, actually told my brother she won’t be doing laundry even though he is gone for work 28 days at a time with a mere two weeks off in between, and on the rare occasions she had to do her laundry, she would load the pile of mildewing greasy work clothes mixed in with now mildewy greasy baby clothes into the same load, not using the dreft that I buy for the baby. She does not bathe the baby, his nails being always black with dirt. Mind you, this is a newborn baby, and when this is mentioned she would say, “He’s a little boy, little boys are dirty.” Not immobile infant baby boys, I would think to myself. And so it goes, I am the one who bathes the baby and does his laundry. My mother is also heavily involved, buying many of the things the baby needs like clothes and toys and a bouncer and literally many thousands of dollars worth of baby necessities, and she is free daycare for the baby while his mother works. The mother of my nephew also pounds energy drinks and breastfeeds, and I know some people don’t agree that she’s wrong but she is not clean and clear when she is breastfeeding my nephew. His pee was always dark yellow, almost orange, and you could smell it from across the room. She would only breastfeed for a minute or two at a time, and when I have him on a bottle a small meal for him was 6oz. His skin was grey, and he was often not pooping for several days despite being 50/50 milk and formula, and if he so much as squirmed she would feed him tylenol and gripe water. She would also lay in bed with him all day, and I am not exaggerating. They may not get out of bed for 24 hours or more. Not playing with toys, not reading books, just sleeping or watching Grey’s Anatomy. She drops my nephew off the bed several times.

      When I moved them into the house I wrote an extensive lease, many pages long, dealing mostly with drug use. I made them initial all of the paragraphs pertaining to drug use. She has her medical card (as do I) and my rule was she was not to smoke weed in the house and that she was not to smoke weed while she was still breastfeeding. i understand that this is unenforceable, but the idea was they don’t know this is unenforceable, what she puts in her body goes into his body, and she was not going to be feeding my infant nephew weed. Period. If you disagree, you are wrong. There are many medicines you can’t take while breastfeeding and I am putting weed on that list. Not to mention, she is in care of an infant. She needs to be sober. Completely sober at all times that she is in care of that infant. Zero tolerance.

      One month after he was born, I caught her and her visiting sister smoking weed inside with the baby. After her sister left for home the next day, I had a calm and rational conversation with her about how that wasn’t allowed in my house, and she cannot be smoking weed while she was breastfeeding. Basically she was going to have to go off weed for at a minimum a year. I recorded this conversation. Soon after this some troubling signs begin appearing. A roll of foil went missing, a pen with the guts removed was found when I was doing baby’s laundry (used as a straw to suck the smoke off of tinfoil), and I began to not see her or my nephew for days while they would be holed up in their room. When she does make an appearance she looks really really high, all the time, but suspiciously with no weed smell. She gets in trouble at work for bad performance (waitress) and is asked point blank if she is high right then. She tells this story to me furious that her boss would disrespect her so much. Ten minute trips (with my nephew in tow) mysteriously turn into 3 hour trips with her being obviously messed up when she returns home. While baby sitting she will often show up 3 hours after her shift ended. I catch her at a river access passing something either from or to her trunk from a second, unknown vehicle on one of these 10 minute (3 hour) trips, but I don’t tell her I saw her. I’m beginning to get really anxious, like this isn’t just weed which I do not like but cannot do much about. I’m very very familiar with these behaviours because of how long we went through this with my brother. Finally one night, she arrives home so wasted that she leaves her phone out. I go through it and wouldn’t you know, $1500 worth of pills in one pic and talking about all of the partying she’s been doing. I have a panic attack because I know now my nephew is in mortal danger and our home is ruined. I wait till she leaves the next day and go through her room, finding burnt foils and scales and other paraphernalia, and she’s down to 11 pills. It’s memorial day weekend and her former social worker isn’t available. I wait till tuesday and me and my mother make the call to dhs. Unfortunately, tuesday is the day my brother gets home, and while i am not 100% sure he’s been doing them with her when he gets home from the boat, I know he’s giving her the money to buy them. DHS and a sheriff show up the next day, the pills are all gone but there are burnt foils everywhere, plenty of evidence, and a safety plan is instated right then and there. The nephew stays with me, and they have to leave our house.

      That weekend I stayed up with my 4 month old nephew while he went through withdrawals. I hope she never gets him back. I have had him for two weeks and he is thriving, his health is great, he has stopped drooling, started pooping, and took to a sleep schedule in about a day. He is amazing, and I love him and will protect him to the best of my ability. I hope DHS comes through on this because if she gets him back, he will have a terrible life.

  2. This is happening everywhere, not just Oklahoma…it is everywhere, especially with the younger children. I am fighting for my grand daughter now, but in Texas if my sons rights are terminated, then I will lose all rights to her to…it is insane and NO ONE at the Legislative level cares or will help…money and greed and the destruction of good families.

  3. The new game is to claim failure to thrive…i am not kidding when i say that the state of oklahoma seeks white babies for eventual sale in adoption. It has become a profit center. Poor women are intentionally targeted by not only social services but a medical community that has been schooled to do so.

  4. Oklahoma DHS sells white children. I came to this state 6 years ago to help my biological daughter whose mother was addicted to prescription pain killers. I was treated like dirt from the beginning! OKDHS had already made their decision to adopt my child out. Oklahoma can do that without consent of an absentee father. I watched people who had seriously abused their children be reunited wuth them. Whereas in my case reunification was never considered. The caseworker openly lied in her official reports that my daughter had been allegedly sexually abused in my parents home. This could have never happened since my parents lived in Arizona. When later it was found that she was actually being molested in foster care the case worker lied about the perpetrators age to keep the trial from becoming public. These are evil people who only care about protecting their jobs!

  5. Adoption incentives each state receives from the federal government, along with the adoption business in this country, which is the largest grossing unregulated industry in America, lobby’s for laws which fail to ensure ethical policies and practices. Archaic “sealed records” law in adoption not only strips adopted individuals of their identity and genealogy and on-going family medical histories, but also fails to ensure oversight to the organizations and businesses who operate adoption. When unethical practices can be hidden behind “sealed records” laws, it strips natural families of human rights and reduces children and adopted individuals to products of a system. The Child Welfare League of America supports legislation passed by several states which ensure every adopted individual access to their original and unfalsified birth certificate.

  6. My 18-year-old punched her father three times in the face, he pushed her. She called 911 and reported him and I were in altercation (physical). They arrived, investigated, left.
    Approx 20 mins later my mother (estranged but I allow to see grandkids) pulls up with 14 yo who tells husband she’s going to get 6 yo ready for school. Husband hears front door shut and goes outside. My mother starts hitting him in head with phone, slamming his arm in car door and urging 14 yo to attack him. 911 called again. Same deputies arrive. Husband tells them to have his children in house, mother in law leave (she knows she is tresspassing) and he wants assault charges filed.
    My mother remains on property approx 30 more mins, deputy calls dhs, daughter never made to come back in house, and husband was told to come to sheriffs station to file a report.
    Dhs interviewed children outside with grandmother present and reported they needed to go so they could investigate it. They said if we didn’t sign voluntary form they would take emergency custody!!!! I let them go with my sister. That was dec 4, 2016 and we have not seen them at of today dec 16! We went to their meetings of bull and when I revoked, they already had judge sign. They reported they were concerned about my spouse and I arguing and it escalating into violence. To this day we possess no paperwork, they have yet to call our witnesses, and we’ve obtained an attorney!

    Best part—-investigator knows my sister and 18 yo. They are friends on fb and my 18 yr has babysat numerous times!!!

    We’ve never been interviewed, house never inspected, haven’t seen them, don’t know where they are, they don’t know my children’s medical he or physicians!

    DHS is a fraud

  7. OK DHS ARE THE SORRY ASS PEOPLE I EVER CAME CROSS THEY FEED ON LOWINCOME PEOPLE THEY MAKE THINGS UP SO THEY CAN HAVE JOB THEY LIE TO THE COURTS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE THEY DO THERE BEST TO HAVE YOUR RIGHTS TAKEN WHEN SOMEONE TELLS YOU TO MAKE YOUR DHS WORKER YOUR NEW BEST FRIEND. DON’T IT’S LIE THERE NOT HERE TO HELP YOU GET YOUR KIDS BACK.THEY ARE THERE TO FIND WHAT EVER THEY CAN TO USE AGINST YOU TO MAKE THERE LIES LIKE GOOD AND TO MAKE YOU OUT TO BE THE WORST PARNTE AND TO MAKE YOU FEEL SO LOW YOU WANT TO JUST SAY FUCK IT AND DIE. THEY REMOVED MY KIDS BECAUSE THERE DADDY SAID HIM AND I SMOKED METH IN MY SISTER HOME THEY SAID AND BECAUSE MY SISTER HAD PENDING CHARGES FOR TRAFFICKING DRUGS AND PENDING GUN CHANGE.BUT THAT IS HERS.ALL THEY ASKED ME WAS WHERE ARE YOUR KIDS I TOLD THEM AT SCHOOL I WENT TO JAIL FOR WARRANT FOR DIFFERENT CO. FOR MY COURT COST FROM 2000 AND I HAD NEVER BEEN IN TROUBLE BEFORE OR AFTER THAT’S ALL AND THEY TOLD ME IF YOUR SISTER NAME COMES BACK CLEAR THEN YOUR SISTER WILL HAVE THEM AND JUST KNOW YOUR KIDS WILL BE HOME WITH YOUR SISTER. I DIDN’T KNOW MY KIDS WENT TO DHS AND TELL I GOT OF JAIL AND MY FAMILY TOLD ME. THEN THE WORKER WE HAD TRY TO MAKE ME OUT TO BE SOMEONE THAT WAS GANG MEMBER ON METH .BEFOR SHE EVEN LOOKED AT MY RECORD OR GAVE ME DRUG TEST TO SAY I WAS ON DRUGS. THEN SHE TRY TO SAY THEY TAKEN MY SISTER KID BECAUSE OF ME BEING ON DRUGS.SO I TOLD HER YOUR SURE THE F#$@ NOT GOING TO JUDGE ME IF YOU DON’T KNOW ME OR KNOW ANY THING I BEEN THOUGH AND IF YOU DON’T HAVERY NO PROOF OF ME BEING IN GANG THEN DON’T ASSUME AND TELL YOU KNOW FOR SURE AND DON’T ASSUME IM METH HEAD AND LESS YOU HAVE GAVE ME DRUG TEST AND IT WAS POSITIVE FOR METH AND TELL THEN DON’T ASSUME WHO I AM AND TELL YOU HAVE LOOKED ME UP OK. WILL NOW I’M JUST WAITING FOR FEB.16.17 FOR MY HUSBAND TO GIVE UP HIS RIGHTS ON HIS ON SO IF HE EVER GET TO COME BACK TO THE U.S HE CAN STILL SEE MY KIDS AND BE IN THERE LIFE’S THEN AFTER THAT THEY SAID THEY WILL SET A DAY FOR ME TO HAVE JURY TRIL TO SEE IF THEY CAN TERMINATE MY RIGHTS.ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS FUCK JUDGE RYAN FOR THE FUCKED UP STATE OF OKLAHOMA AND OK DHS ASTACISHEA CALHOUN LOOK HER UP ON TEETER AND SEE WHAT KIND OF LADY THE STATE OKLAHOMA HAVE WORKING WITH THE KIDS THEY TAKE FROM YOU TALKING ABOUT SUCKING DICK AND GETTING HER SOME MUCH NEEDED GOOD GOOD IF YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS AND SORRY ASS TRIB ABSENTEE SHAWNEE THAT HAVE WHITE PEOPLE WORKING FOR THEM SO THEY FORGET WHO THERE SUPPOSED TO BE THERE FOR AND GO AGAINST THE PEOPLE THE SUPPOSED TO HELP.ONE DAY ALL THE FUCKED UP PEOPLE I JUST TALKED ABOUT WILL ONE DAY HAVE SOME KIND OF KIDS OR SOMEONE CLOSE TO THEM IN THE SAME SPOT WE’RE ALL IN AND THERE GOING TO BE FUCKED OVER JUST LIKE WE ALL WAS. THAND YOU AND HAVE VERY BLESSED DAY.

  8. Our Newborn baby, now just turned 1yrs. Old was taken from us from birth. She was born on Methadone because I was a heroine addict that wanted to quit, & upon entering my program (Methadone),with 1 on 1 counseling, monthly ua’s, The Works! The UA I was initially given is How I found out I was pregnant so I was told that I definitely did the right thing for the baby due to withdrawl being lethal for an unborn child. So I gave birth to her and DHs took her but Ive had 2 other babies born in the same situation and I was able to take them home with me; Just the same was suppose to happen but they did and give me a treatment plan in February which I finished late March, and the worker denied to the Court’s Judge that ANYTHING had been done. Long story short, they filed to terminate on me & did and had an adoptive home awaiting my daughter that whole time regardless of me, Who was set up to fail.Now I’m so sick and depressed & don’t know what to do now but try appealing to supreme court and also Pray My story reaches any of you out there wanting to fight/ willing to fight for our Babies; Lets make it a community effort. There’s strength in numbers you guys know…. Lets sue the hell outta the D.H.S. I’m in Tulsa, Oklahoma. ANYONE CAN CALL ME ANYTIME DAY OR NIGHT: NAMES ROSE, And I just want my daughter back!!! Her name is Rayla Mozelle Smith and a family in Colorado is gonnna adopt her if I don’t win this appeal so please I need prayers & Support. (918)710-9948

  9. Oklahoma no one should have the right to report someone for child abuse or neglect or whatever without giving their full name and a back round check!!!!!. If someone needs protection for reporting abuse we have restraining orders for that this annonomus of names is bullshit. These investigations should be limited to parents with a history of abuse!. “Also when their is a investigation going on (CPS) should be required by law and consistutional law to provide not just facts alone but actual tangible evidence which they are but do not follow. I am all for protecting children however when protecting children and the title of such gets turned into just a evil excuse to kidnap innocent children from innocent parents for no reason and for only the sole perpose of making more money and meeting case loads it has truely become a evil organization threatening our whole 🌎 world. I am currently being investigated for smacking my son at a health and human service office here in Oklahoma. Which i did not smack my son but a social worker insisted i did well people that is hearsay and last i checked without tangible evidence i am innocent till proven guilty!!. So two cops and two social workers came to my house that night at 8. P.m. even though this all happened at 3 p.m. and i let them in only cuz they threatened to take my children. They did not have a judges order or a warrant for my arrest. So the point is they violated my 4th and 14th ammendment rights which state that a person is entitled to privacy in their persons property and things. Their was no probable cause and exigent circumstances. Also when they checked my child for brusies and marks they found nothing. My boyfriend was forcsed to come home from work to babysitte me cuz the social worker who gained unlawful entry into my home based on threats and coresen said she didnt think my kids were safe in my care due to mental instability. “What a crack of shit!!!. She is a social worker not a doctor. We me and my childrens father were then told to meet at juvenile court for a meeting only to be forced to sign a (safety plan) signed due to threats of having our children taken away a safety plan that is (Voluntary). We signed it under duress only!!. We were not provided any concideration to seek legal counsel which is a violation of our 6th ammendment rights under the U.S. constitution. “So basically the fucking social workers fucking violated us all round under united states consititution, and should be jailed for fraude which if they do decide to take my kids under fraudulent claims. I will see to it that lose their immunity under state law for that is the law. All government offiacals are protected under the law but should they lose their immunity!!. I am utterly disgusted with social services in Oklahoma. They don’t do back checks on foster homes which is a requirment by law. (CPS) needs to be held accountable for their actions and wrong doings our children our not pay checks they people, little people and they are our future!! . God please protect the innocent from their lies and may those that do harm to children pay fully with a life sentence in prison i pray. For these are our families you (CPS) are distroying for personal gain and profit doing devils work!. Government has no place in family affairs for all people do not share the same beliefs and religious standards. Their is no payment that can possibly be given to a person to replace the loss of yrs gone by or their child ripped out of a parents arms. Take my kids and you will pay i may be low income easy target in your eyes (CPS) and you may think i am mental but your not a doctor and i do know my rights under the U.S. constitution and i will work to have you removed and your case workers jailed for denile of my rights and everyone elses. For were more then one are gathered their is our saviour Jesus Christ in the midest of all. “For United we stand and devided we fall the people have the power to change the world for the better of our innocent parents and children.

  10. //www.news9.com/clip/9401656/sister-of-okc-man-charged-with-child-rape-worried-other-children-were-targeted

    I am beyond outraged. The link above is my story. There is also a story of me being take from my mother as well that channel 9 news done. In my case they were way too late….my pedophile was paying off judges and DAs which he was supplying drugs to in Pottowatomie County. I lost the fight to get my kids back. They did everything they could to stop me. Even sent me to 3 different places because none of them would recommend drug and alcohol treatment because I wasn’t an addict. I have no drug or DUI charges and nothing more than a traffic ticket in my life. The last place they sent me to SOS in OKC, said they are tired of DHS trying to do their job for them. He refused to do another assessment and backed the opinion of the previous ones as well, since no physical signs of addiction were ever visible. They overrided the professionals opinion, and made me take an alcohol test that went back 80 hours instead of the regular test. Why??? They eventually knew I would crack and turn to something for relief. They had already taken my family from me. I failed a couple alcohol test and just before I was about to get unsupervised visits…they say I failed a test…My lawyer did nothing when I asked for a retest. The judge told my daughter in court.” If you do not go home. Don’t blame your mom. Blame me.” I knew then they were never giving my children back and I kind of gave up. They had no right to do this. I had already removed the threat before they got there. My brother is in prison now as we speak. Plus made a statement to protect any other children. They said I failed to protect them. That I knew or should’ve known he would do that. My brother was my main support when I got through my abuse. Why after seeing how much it hurt me, would I ever think he would do that to my children. They kidnapped my kids, just 2 of the 4…I got to share custody with the other 2. But my 1st born girl, and my only son,the baby have been trafficked off and adopted and I never harmed or abused them in any way. I even reported the whole incident myself just to try and keep this from happening, and they lied in court with some fabricated BS…and took my children. Now I know that I am an Moor American and technically the judicial system is a fraud with no jurisdictional power to do any of this. It’s all illegal. I stood as a corporation in court and not a person. I just want my family back.

    1. I’m currently going through the same thing here in caddo county my 4of my kids were taken for domestic violence.I got 1 month and I’m losing my rights.I got a appointed lawyer who has not helped me at all.I have no family support and I’m losing my house in 1 month.I really feel that I have been a Target because my ex his sister was a DHS worker his mom and his step dad got connections.He is white and I’m native American.My tribe is Wichita and they have not helped either.So I’m needing some help.I don’t have no one in my corner.I want to give up but I think of my babies and just keep trying.my kids r 8,6,4,2. I love my kids,I know I was a good mom .I don’t understand when we go court nobody is hearing me.they r listening to lies the DHS and my ex r making up and the judge Hill believes it.Im starting to see alot
      more women around here going through the same thing .Someone needs to be aware of caddo county and what they are doing here.

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